I like them both - but I also enjoy modern Simpsons, so I'm weird. Not only the worst episode ever … The judge ordered the entire town that no one ever mentions it again, which is a unique take on fixing something that happens on a show that would screw up future episodes. And didn't someone else? It would also seem to invalidate the entire POW storyline, and his maddening quest to find the Vietnamese stew made with ‘four kinds of rice’. Yes, there were antics that could only happen in cartoons - a deluge of acid (”the goggles do nothing!”), an elephant stampeding through the town, Homer becoming a bloody astronaut. These fans were skewered hilariously in the Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie show - “I feel the show owes me,” etc. “This is by far the worst episode. The Principal And The Pauper (1997) Season 9 Episode 4F23- The Simpsons Cartoon ... Have we made any mistakes... or do you ahve any additional information about The Principal And The Pauper? And then, to put it bluntly, the writers stopped caring about the characters as much as the fans did. Skinner episode has its moments, the 90's show is just shite. Principal and the Pauper, while the retcon decimated a lot of good will towards the character still had some killer jokes and that 'good' Simpsons vibe. Mad Men, of course, spent several years examining “Don Draper.” They may trace back to the famous Martin Guerre case of sixteenth century France. The Principal and the Pauper. When Principal Skinner’s voice actor Harry Shearer read the script for “The Principal and the Pauper,” he objected to it. Turner, Chris (2004). People who are up-in-arms about continuity also need to remember that the show only bothers with it when it's convenient. It aired in the United States on September 28th, 1997 with Martin Sheen guest starring as Sgt. (Since Jimmy Carter, of course. A bunch of smiles, but no bellylaughs. ... (any time his past is brought up I immediately think of this episode again). I recall at least a couple episodes where Bart had a "first" kiss, for one example. Ok, just our tenth episode…ery. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It's always horrible. Though if it was a modern episode, there would have been more pop culture references and the real Seymour would have been played a random celebrity (like George Clooney). But I hate that 90's show. Directed by Steven Dean Moore. Where once was a show that had found a magical niche between satire, absurdity, and heart, outright wackiness began to take hold. Anyway, "The Principal and the Pauper", "Miracle on Evergreen Terrace", and "Lisa the Simpson" are the worst episodes of Season 9. 105 Views. Share. Homer the Heretic. And that is not what I’m trying to say here. Season 9: The Principal And The Pauper. Today’s episode is 902 “The Principal and the Pauper”. "The Principal and the Pauper" adalah episode kedua dari musim kesembilan The Simpsons. Pretty much every episode after Season 13 is far worse than both of these eps. Episode tersebut awalnya disiarkan dalam saluran Fox di Amerika Serikat pada 28 September 1997. If so, we would love to hear from you. “Oh Skinner, yeah, let’s fuck him, it’ll be hilarious.” Instead, it was confusing, and not, crime upon crime, even very funny. It's KRABAPPEL, dammit! ANd if I had to rank it, it would definitely NOT be in my bottom 25 list. He really made the best with what he had to work with and it shows. I'm going to be controversial and say that I like the Principal and the Pauper episode, and I think that season 9 as a whole was very good. The episode is messed up with how they treat him. Ensemble Dark Horse: Martin Sheen's performance as the real Seymour Skinner was easily the best-received part of the episode. Oct 12, 2018 1 min read. Any show where they spend a lot of the time singing. For me had to be The Principal and the Pauper, not only is it the worst episode ever, it completely jumped the shark, & beginning of the end of the golden era Simpsons, this is the episode where Principal Skinner is unmasked as a fraud, who's real name is Armin Tamzarian . Skinner, in the Principal and the Pauper, is a chancer. p&p and city of new york vs homer are some of the better episodes of season 9. ... Do you love The Principal And The Pauper, or do you think it is the worst cartoon ever? But we are asked in this episode to disregard everything we knew about a character we’d been asked to care about up to that point. It was both a mirror of our own society, and a place unto itself. The Simpsons doesn’t owe me anything. And one of the main reasons I was so excited was simple: The Simpsons. Charlie Sweatpants: I had not seen this one in many years, maybe a decade or more, and I was hoping that there was some redeeming value to … Are you also bothered that no one has aged in 30 years? Plus I like "The Principle and the Pauper" more because it reminds me of Mad Men. But it just didn’t feel right in the Simpsons. And then came the tipping point: the Principal and the Pauper. But you can start to see the bad decisions stacking up. JavaScript is disabled. I thought both were good episodes. I think that the major decline started in season 10 rather than in season 9. Seriously if they were Halloween specials would that them better with you guys? It created a universe beyond the immediate Simpsons family of individuals who were hilarious, and who often slipped into intended caricature, but who also felt somewhat real. Principal and the Pauper may be hated for its awful plot but at least there were some funny jokes. Comment. The Kwik-E-Mart scene comes to mind in particular as pretty forced humor. the principal and the pauper at least had funny moments. For non-UK readers, this was like getting cable, HBO, the whole shebang in one go. Beyond the ret-con of Skinner’s experience in Vietnam, it just doesn’t fit with the man we’ve seen in the show to that point. In this, the real Skinner is driven out of town, and the judge decrees that no-one will ever talk of it again. The show became dumb because it was stripped of its emotional depth. The Principal and the Pauper (Season 9) I think everyone much agrees this episode deserves to be on everyone's worst list, regardless which position it … So an unprecedented move was made - to blow up a relatively central character in the show, then pretend it never happened. Crabapple died, right? Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is … The 90s show was way worse, and yes there are worse ones. It also doesn't help that the 90's aren't as easily mockable a decade as the 70s or 80s. Lady Goes Gaga is just a cringe-worthy awful nightmare. Classic Episode. The show’s lovingly built individuals were reduced to mere conduits of that week’s designated zaniness. ), The Principal and the Pauper: Worst Episode Ever. Most of the complaints I've seen so far about "The Principal and the Pauper" could also be leveled against many other Golden Age episodes; I'm trying to figure out why those episodes are well-loved while "The Principal and the Pauper" is so reviled. Cheap jokes have replaced deep jokes. 0. Except without any funny material. No? So by the time Season 9 began, you could tell that things were disintegrating. Lemon of Troy. In the second one, the town didn't 'just forget' about him. According to animation director Steve Moore, one of the working titles for the episode was "Skinnersby". The episode, of course, has its jokes. Yes, he may arbitrary, and is slowly being crushed by the system, and specifically Supernintendo Chalmers, but there is a goodness, and, dare I say it, an authenticity to the character. The previous episode was a highly acclaimed episode, and that episode was considered as the best episode of Season 9. The episode controversially revealed that Skinner is an impostor named Armin Tamzarian who stole a Vietnam veteran’s identity. Quite the opposite. And one of the main reasons I … It wouldn't be in the top either. It's "The Principal and the Pauper". The 90s episode, ignoring any crap about continuity and such, is trash. The episode was the last one of the show written by Ken Keeler. But the Principal and the Pauper was a moment which destroyed a bond of trust between the show and its fans; a rubicon moment after which the show was never the same. You’re history’s greatest monster. Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein with Mike Scully were very excited about the episode because Principal Skinner was their favorite character. But it all seemed to be things that could organically arise from the place we’d come to love. 0 Favourites. As shown in the Sweet Seymour Skinner’s Badaaasss Song, or even at the end of the The Boy Who Knew Too Much, he’s essentially a boring, sweet man. Principal and the Pauper has a dumb twist, but genuinely has funny moments. The Principal and the Pauper There has been only one (canon) instance of Skinner's real name spoken of after this episode. Sky would show about 2-3 hours of The Simpsons every goddamn night. Esoteric Happy Ending: An innocent man is expelled from his hometown just because he has an impostor. Yes this episode isn't so great, but the episode that's worse then that one is the one where Lisa Simpson meets Lady Gaga. 90s show is pathetic. There's so much that has happened on the Simpsons that have never seen. Tweet. And the real Seymour Skinner too. That 90's Show has a dumb plot, and I don't remember laughing at the episode once. I always thought Principal & the Pauper was fun in a really dumb way, especially since later episodes in the series kind of mock it. In depth information about The Principal And The Pauper, produced by Gracie Films. Metacritic TV Episode Reviews, The Principal and The Pauper, The big surprise at the party honoring Seymour Skinner's 20 years as principal is that the real Seymour Skinner shows up. Principal and the Pauper was a funny episode. It was all here, it was glorious, and I was seeing it for the first time. It’s understandable that fatigue was setting in, despite rotations of the show’s writers and producers. The Principal and the Pauper ” Sam H says: February 24, 2012 at 2:04 pm. ). Yeah it's worse. Probably one of the most exciting moments of my childhood was when my parents finally got us Sky TV. Skinner’s Vietnam flashbacks could still be true, but he seems a markedly different character to the straightlaced one who sees JOHNNY JOHNNNNY being shot up on the Apocalypse Now boat. I have read the writers defend this story, but this has always struck me as a moment when they realized they were in too deep, and were trying to dig themselves out of the character shaped hole they’d found themselves in. Which modern Kidcoms are worse, Nick or Disney? Fans complaining about the demise of the show were hardly new by Season 9. Fuck you, Armin Tamzarian. http://www.weepodcast.com/WEE review S09E02 - The Principal and the PauperOur 10th anniversary episode! The final slap in the face is the episode’s ending sequence. “Reposted SNPP comments” have become a longstanding joke in the comments section of the AV club’s reviews of classic Simpsons. The Principal and the Pauper was a bad episode from the shows best seasons which still makes it better then most episodes. That 90's show was absolute trash and unfunny...like most modern Simpsons episodes. Lisa then calls him by Armin and Skinner walks off. I've said it a million times but the Principal and the Pauper is the best worst episode of the series. "The Principal and the Pauper" was the last episode of The Simpsons written by Ken Keeler, who also pitched the original idea for the episode. Principal and the Pauper isn't that bad, though I guess it was probably the worst ep up to that point. The Principal And The Pauper (1997) Season 9 Episode 4F23- The Simpsons Cartoon Episode Guide by Dave Koch. It's the only episode of the Simpsons that I can say is really really bad. Or when Grimey turned up - a classic episode that, in some respects, heralded the end of the lovably stupid Homer and began his descent into (*shudder*) zaniness. There's so much that has happened on the Simpsons that have never seen. I love modern Simpsons. I remember Maude getting killed, Selma or Patty getting married in a gay wedding, and then I don't know anything after that. Oh, a … It was just really lame and boring. P&P is a funny episode at least. Maybe it was when Lisa fell for Nelson. Seymour Skinner isn’t Seymour Skinner. However, Keeler has said he was inspired by the Tichborne Case of nineteenth-century England. But it would have been nice if the show had kept being the best comedy ever made, and the Principal and the Pauper helps explain why it isn’t any more. I wouldn’t call it the worst episode, but it’s pretty bad in my opinion. Not only that, a law is made ensuring said impostor remains an impostor for the rest of his life. Principal and the Pauper was only considered bad in terms of golden era standards; it's better than most episodes post season 10. they were both good episodes but the 90s show was a dumber thing to do in terms of show continuity. With Dan Castellaneta, Julie Kavner, Nancy Cartwright, Yeardley Smith. Honestly, the story line for "The Principal and the Pauper" feels like it could have been a modern episode. Even current “zombie simpsons” epsides have great one-liners. And the first major casualty was poor Seymour Skinner. The Principal and the Pauper has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria.If you can improve it further, please do so. Principal and the Pauper is a fine episode with a heartless gimmick attached. This one was almost a tie between ‘The Principal And The Pauper’ and ‘All Singing All Dancing’ and the reason I didn’t pick the latter which I really am not fond of due to it being another throwback, is because I have already chosen a similar episode in ‘Another Simpsons Clip Show’. Paauper is not a bad episode, it is funny. Duffman replacing, well, any character voiced by Phil Hartman. When Mr Burns didn’t destroy his idiotic son played by Rodney Dangerfield or seemed, even worse, like a befuddled old man when he lost his fortune. ... (The Principal and the Pauper, anyone?) Deep down, despite his bursts of cynicism (”come on Edna, we both know these children have no future!”) there’s the sense he cares for the kids, for the school and for his job. Worst. Seymour Skinner. In a return visit, Bob Mackey joined us this week. Such a very terrible episode to retcon Principal Skinner's backstory. I still think Principal and the Pauper is a good, and interesting episode, but like Seinfeld's Season 9, this is the prime example of why The Simpsons should have ended at Season 9, since, I believe they reached the limits of character development from people like Skinner. Why do people care about Simpsons continuity? The Principal and the Pauper: Worst Episode Ever. It almost feels like a parody of huge character reveals on TV dramas, whereas the 90's one was just a worse take on the flashback episode concept - which they'd done better in the past. The Principal and the Pauper is the second episode of Season 9 of The Simpsons (actually a leftover episode from Season 8). That is the only real explanation I can think of for what really changed after season 9. Especially with The Principal and the Pauper out there. I'm pretty sure the 90s show was the last episode of the Simpsons I watched. 90s show. The worst episode of The Simpsons IMO. This is actually a somewhat common storytelling trope. He’s a punk kid from Capitol City who stole the identity of his Sergeant during the Vietnam war. Reply. Principal and the Pauper was not only the most ridiculous plot yet, the humor and writing was very subpar for its time. Yeah The Principal and the Pauper was the start of the decline of the Simpsons, but Lisa Goes Gaga is the worst Simpsons episode of all time. Referensi Daftar pustaka. For non-UK readers, this was like getting cable, HBO, the whole shebang in one go. 5 Comments. This is what made the Simpsons so spectacular in its golden age - it had an almost endless bench of incredible characters. Ever. In the aforementioned episode "I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot", Lisa renames her 5th cat Snowball II to save money on stuff and Skinner walks by and said "Isn't that a cheat?" There is way worse than those two but if I had to pick it would be the principal and pauper one. That's the worst Simpsons episode ever. Either that, or they simply had near total contempt for the fans who’d been following the show for years, hoping they would somehow laugh at the sheer ridiculousness of it all. ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l, Toonami - the after-school show that defined an anime generation. The episode's official title is a reference to the book The Prince and the Pau… But, for the worst episode, they chose "Bart to the Future" Truth be told, I actually didn't mind this episode. Add to Favourites. Cartoon Comments: Do you love The Principal And The Pauper, or do you think it is the worst cartoon ever? I remember Maude getting killed, Selma or Patty getting married in a gay wedding, and then I don't know anything after that. In episode after episode, the depth and beauty of Springfield continued to reveal itself. There would also be new episodes each Sunday. I like The Principal and the Pauper. That's not a coincidence. Sure, there have been good, perhaps even great episodes of the Simpsons in the zillion seasons since it aired. (Why does it have to be zany?). But one thing that seems to be something of a spoken agreement by a large number of Simpsons fans, is that the first big crack in the armor with the show manifested itself in the Season 9 episode, The Principal and the Pauper. By Season 9, there had been 100s of episodes of the Simpsons. so the best years will be defined as the episodes between Season 2 to Season 8. Probably one of the most exciting moments of my childhood was when my parents finally got us Sky TV. Many fans believe the episode is based on the story of Martin Guerre or the 1993 film Sommersby. My least favorite episode for sure. Stereotypical jokes against New Yorkers so broad that they could be from any old comedy show. The other is not. The jaded bartender; the town drunk; the workaholic shopkeeper; the spinster sisters; the corrupt town mayor. Many turning points have been pushed forward, most prominently the season nine episode ‘The Principal and the Pauper’. The first episode of that season, The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson, certainly has its moments. Shame they managed to waste a guest spot from Martin Sheen on this episode. The pair had already written the season five episode "Sweet Seymour Skinner's Baadasssss Song", which was an in-depth study of the character. If people think those episodes are funny while "The Principal and the Pauper" isn't, that's fine. Not Crabapple, not Crab Apple, and certainly not Crandall! Keeler used the name Armin Tamzarian from a claims adjuster who … At his 20th anniversary celebration as school principal, Principal Skinner is discovered to be an imposter of the real Seymour Skinner. You should listen to Worst Episode Ever Podcast, so far they've reviewed 46 of the post classic era episodes and "That 90's Show" is 22 while "The Principle and the Pauper" is 43 ( with 1 being the worst ranking.) That 90s show had one good joke the entire episode; the diabetes one. Download Cartoon Now Online. 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